THE AFRICA I WANT – MR. Z.W. MUNAKU asserts that its personality and character must be inclusive, open and accountable to the weakest member of society

What kind of Africa do you want your personality to shine?

The Banking on Africa’s Future (BOAF) initiative is aimed at pushing the envelope of thought and action using shared chats as a pathway to more efficient problem solving address.

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[9/12, 8:44 PM] mdmawere1: [9/12, 8:28 PM] Sophie Mokoena: I am having a meeting my team. We will discuss documents. I am sure you are aware that there was a big breaking story in UK and the Elections in Kenya.
[9/12, 8:29 PM] mdmawere1: I am not aware of anything unless told. As you may be aware, there are breaking stories in SA that would not wait for the queen or Ruto.
[9/12, 8:51 PM] Munaku: Munangagwa is without ethics at all.The good book said the is no honor among thieves.They were talking about him and his circle of friends.He has no conscience.But i understand he must be exposed.What he does in the dark should be show cased in the the day light.The investors must know that the is no assurance for investing in Zimbabwe.The South African gov must know the meaning of their actions
[9/12, 8:52 PM] Munaku: The dirty linen must be hung where it can be seen in all its “glory”.
[9/12, 8:54 PM] mdmawere1: Did you know about the involvement and complicity of the SA govt, courts and the white law firms in asserting the criminally acquired rights in SA judicial proceedings and the naked audacity of people like Gwede to trivialize the unconscionable actions of prestigious law firms like ENS INC and DLA PIPER?
[9/12, 8:58 PM] Munaku: No i was not aware but nonetheless it is not below its dignity.With Gwede you must remember him mantashing.He is that kind of person.No set morals.
[9/12, 8:59 PM] Munaku: … moral standards.
[9/12, 9:03 PM] mdmawere1: Do you agree that Gwede took an oath to uphold, defend, respect and obey the constitution as the supreme law of the Republic yet in this case, Ms Simpson of DLA Piper and Adv Christo Bothma, rogue attorneys, escape his ridicule and vernom directed at blacks who are of Zimbabwean heritage while Zim funds estimated at R100 million have been used to pay legal fees rather improve hospitals in Zim.
[9/12, 9:09 PM] Munaku: Our sojourn is marked by their complicity and duplicity.It has most certainly not been u eventfull.Elections take place in Zim and the process is unprocedural.They turn around and give it a thumps up.The economy doesnt think so.It plunges and people jump from Zim into South Africa.I am unimpressed that they did not anticipate that.Now when Zimbos flood into South Africa overwhelming their services they are wide eyed and say Zimbos should go back to a problem of South African and Zimbabwean government’s making.
[9/12, 9:14 PM] mdmawere1: Profound
[9/12, 9:18 PM] Munaku: I do.In SA it can be remedied by the very action you are taking.Their process are still subsivient to the people and courts.The are the proverbal dog wagged by its owner so to speak.The threat of having everyone knowing their complicity scares them out of thier wits.It should be the stick that will guide them.They are on a anti state capture crussade.This would be another scoop of state captured by Zimbabwe to the point their state institution now do Zim gorv’s dirty work.
[9/12, 9:22 PM] mdmawere1: Do you think the media and the general public know the reality of judicial capture to permit a person like Gwede to be discouraged from making reckless utterances based on gossip that all Zimbabwean heritage residents and citizens are predators and criminals?
[9/12, 9:30 PM] Munaku: They don’t. Its a suitable stick.It should have a deterent effect.I doubt he would want it to spill over into that terrain.Put the fear of God into him.I am sure you know a good number of journalist.Its can be queit juicy.Have them notify him about it and its ramification.That might have a sovering effect on him.Journalists just love juicy material.Lol.
[9/12, 9:32 PM] mdmawere1: Should it be about me v Gwede or a generalized issue about the weaponization of the courts and the role of silence in undermining justice?
[9/12, 9:39 PM] Munaku: The weaponisation of the courts and the role of silence in undermining justice.You and Gwede are the test case.Listen if you are going to eat a dog make sure its fat ,juicy male one.Its process that i am talking of.This should be queit easy.The ANC is going for elections.You know how it is wield the big stick and speak very sofly it will go a long way.You would be surprised at the effect.All is fair in love as in war.Lol.
[9/12, 9:40 PM] mdmawere1: Do you agree that personalization of issues is the best weapon for doing nothing?

Did you listen to my audio with Gwede?
[9/12, 9:42 PM] Munaku: Personalisation is more direct.It show cases the weaponisation……
[9/12, 9:44 PM] Munaku: With Gwede ?I dont think you shared it with me.The was one when you spoke about Gwede but not the one you talked with him.
[9/12, 9:45 PM] mdmawere1: Imagine Jesus was never a victim, who would choose to follow him?
[9/12, 9:46 PM] mdmawere1: Do you want to listen so that you can properly apply your mind to the promise and challenge of building an inclusive SA based on the rule of law?
[9/12, 9:47 PM] Munaku: Definately.That would be great.
[9/12, 9:51 PM] Munaku: The is no wifi where i am so can you have it audio format like the others you have shared so i can properly listen to it.I am not at home.
[9/12, 9:52 PM] mdmawere1: Ok thanks
[9/12, 9:59 PM] Munaku: Am i reading this right?Were you ever the ANC branch chairman?
[9/12, 9:59 PM] Munaku: Great.Let me listern to it now.
[9/12, 9:59 PM] mdmawere1: Yes
[9/12, 9:59 PM] Munaku: Wasnt never aware of that.
[9/12, 10:00 PM] mdmawere1: You suffer no burden to know everything.
[9/12, 10:13 PM] Munaku: He was just throwing his weight around like somebody talking to a subordinate.Arrogant you could say.It hurts me.Let me see what we can come up with.It shouldnt be too hard at all.Just want to make sure all bases are covered.Probably tomorrow on this one.I didnt know Gwede wasn’t that smart.Typical half smart politician.
[9/12, 10:26 PM] mdmawere1: Do you think he thinks he has an equal in this world?
[9/13, 6:50 AM] Munaku: He was not talking with you but talking at you.The was nothing at odd with South Africans in general.One must understand the vicious effect of apartheid.It was a system that for years depended on the superiority of one race over the other.It is what is playing out here.The dismissive reference to Zimbabwe.It pained me.My people go through this it in their dealings with South Africans. In one sentence they think we are not equal to them in this world.Its a national psyche.Like we used to do to the Mozambican or Malawians in former times. We have to come up with a solution to this.Naturally South Africans do not deal well with a sustained resistance or push back.I will come back to you a little latter on.Am going out leaving my phone on the charge.Its battery power is low.It is important to have solutions.
[9/13, 8:08 AM] mdmawere1: Hello
[9/13, 12:13 PM] Munaku: Went through it all.Will go over it again before the day is over today.
[9/13, 12:21 PM] mdmawere1: Great. Does it make sense from a first read?
[9/13, 12:44 PM] Munaku: Yes it does.I am trying to get a strategic bearing on it.Als looking for any strengths or weaknesses.I am doing something else but i will really go into like i said to look for weak legs and where the is strengths to buttress it.
[9/13, 2:04 PM] mdmawere1: Ok
[9/13, 10:08 PM] mdmawere1: Hello
[9/13, 10:44 PM] Munaku: Got caught up in family and other issues when i was in the midst of typing.I think you could see that.It is the type of challenge that a halfhearted approach would not board well for its resolution.I was in bed right now.Got up to check if my charger was working. It has gone through the second reading and i pretty much have the stirrings of what i want.It will be a 2 if not multi pronged approachs one feeding of the others.The law though it follows its own path will lend ammunition to the other’s armories.You seem to be well along that road.We need to flesh it out.You know details.Now i am going back to bed.
[9/13, 10:45 PM] mdmawere1: Ok
[9/13, 10:53 PM] Munaku: Have you thought of that court process that was in Namibia.The one that Afri forum won that white farmer’s victory.Have you thought of people like Dali Mpofu.The have law but have heavy political leanings.You gave me the fly imagery.Journalist are drawn to people like that because they can skink up the whole place.They love it.Or to Bo Farrel Havegees or something.They are fearless.They are just thought running in my mind.What do you think.
[9/14, 6:23 PM] mdmawere1: Hello
[9/14, 7:49 PM] Munaku: Hello how are you?Was travelling just got home a few minutes ago.
[9/14, 8:23 PM] mdmawere1: Fine
[9/14, 8:35 PM] Munaku: Great!.Am cooking.You never did give me your thoughts on this angle.Its a conversation to determine the course to follow.
[9/14, 8:36 PM] mdmawere1: It would appear that you may not see any public interest angle to the matters.
[9/14, 8:40 PM] Munaku: I do.It feed of the proceeds of the court processes and the political….
[9/14, 8:41 PM] Munaku: The public interest does.
[9/14, 8:43 PM] mdmawere1: You ask me whether I have thought of people like Dali. You may not be aware that any injury to a person who is not an authentic SA citizen as alluded to by Gwede is not considered as legitimate.
[9/14, 8:54 PM] Munaku: No i had not.Had no experience or awareness of it but in this journey all efforts are not spared to bring to mind all the possibilities.If it doesnt work fine we try next door.Well i havent walked in the shoes you are wearing to know the texture of the ground but the overriding purpose is as you have pointed out to bring it all out in the open using available material.By the way i am cooking pork.Sometimes it has this interesting aspect of providing the oil to cook itself such that the is no wasted effort.
[9/14, 8:57 PM] mdmawere1: How have you found the information shared so far?
[9/14, 9:02 PM] Munaku: It is pointing to angle i am looking at.
[9/14, 9:02 PM] mdmawere1: What is the angle?
[9/14, 9:12 PM] Munaku: Well i dont know if that needs saying but the effects of the unprocedural and improper ZANU PF weight allowed on the S African judiciary with the collusion of the ANC people like Mantashe.He doesnt seem to want to have a word of it.The is a synergy of strength that is observed in the narrative.
[9/14, 9:13 PM] mdmawere1: Do you think the facts confirm that the President’s crew is untouchable and borderless?
[9/14, 9:26 PM] Munaku: Well weather i think of that or not is another thing suffice to say that the Presidence’s action seem to indicate his own state of mind.Mawere people create their own realities and it can be challenged.That is the drawback.You know how it works somebody creates a reality and then acts it out and is surprise when none shares.The task you seem to have been working on is to disabuse of those imponderable improprieties.It takes efforts to achieve.You have been well on your way on that course.When concluded many will learn.
[9/14, 9:28 PM] Munaku: Typo .Whether
[9/14, 10:17 PM] Munaku: No longer work but personal.I see.
[9/14, 10:19 PM] mdmawere1: What would you recommend as a next step?
[9/15, 6:29 AM] Munaku: Will come back.It needs deep thinking.That is the reason i take time to come back on our communications.They demand the most attention…..and sincerity.
[9/15, 6:46 AM] mdmawere1: Good morning
[9/15, 6:47 AM] mdmawere1: Should you attempt to think alone or raise awareness in groups on what you think are the key issues that need the benefit of community-centric minds based on what you believe are common cause facts?
[9/15, 6:59 AM] Munaku: Same thing.Let me rephraise it.You think to raise awareness in groups on what .. Nonethrless i was refering to my own plate.Important issues/dishes deserve time so that the is no still birth.Strategic angles have to be expored.I always give this case and similar other the most valuable minutes/time.
[9/15, 8:13 AM] mdmawere1: It may not be the same thing. From the Gwede issues, do you agree that there are certain observations that are worth sharing.
These could include:
ARROGANCE OF POWER

1. Gwede is an oath taking public office bearer.
2. He believes his understanding of the identity question is the only superior one.
3. To him it does not matter whether one is documented or undocumented – the difference is the same.
4. He holds the view that SA is overloaded by foreigners whose presence crowds out local aspiring persons.
5. He believes this problem is explosive and ought to be nipped in the bud and this problem ought to be understood in the context of equity so that other nation-states can also restrain their nationals from trekking southbound.
6. He holds the view that anyone with an alternative view is stupid and selfish.
7. I belong to the class of selfish foreigners who after being granted citizenship on charitable grounds believe that they are equal to authentic citizens like him who have the God-given right to write the law and others to obey.
8. Although he took an oath to obey, respect, uphold and defend the constitution as the supreme law of SA, he does not believe that foreigners fall within the ambit of his jurisdiction.
   EXTRA-TERRITORIAL APPLICATION OF LAW
9. The issue that I raised with him of whether a Zimbabwean draconian law that offends the SA constitution can and should be applied extra-territorially, his view is that to the extent that the law originated in Zimbabwe, my home country, this is none of his business and I should take up the matter with ED notwithstanding the fact that the country that recognized and enforced this law is SA through its judiciary.
10. Arising from this reality, what is your take from the facts shared so far and the DLA Piper matter regarding:
    a. Arbitrary substitution of attorneys by Kirsty Simpson, a Director of DLA Piper, who from inception has been the vehicle used by Manikai to prosecuted the reconstruction act in SA under the guise that the reconstruction order did not affect the rights and power of SMM yet the essence of the order is to divest and deprive shareholders and directors of the control and management of the hijacked company.
    b. What is your take on the construction and reality of the legal standing of a creature placed under the control of an Administrator pursuant to the operation of this law?
    c. Does a company under reconstruction fall within the ambit of a juristic entity or an organ of a foreign state in which public power was used as a weapon to deprive and divest?
    d. Do SA have title and jurisdiction to recognize the authority of an extra-judicially appointed Administrator to represent a former company?
    e. Can a reconstruction act co-exist and operate concurrently with the companies act, a law of general application.
11. Now fixed with the knowledge that this diabolical act was recognized, what facts can you share as facts and not as weapons just to share your new knowledge and the possible questions that may follow in order to provoke, ignite and inspire forward-leaning problem solving conversations so that this precedent may be the last?
    [9/15, 2:27 PM] mdmawere1: [9/15, 1:54 AM] Sasha Robinson: Unbelievable!

Do you see a way of de-escalating this situation, brother?

Gwede is toxic and undeserving of your attention. He will drain your 24 hours.

He needs to be made irrelevant and ignored tactfully.

I don’t see him as having the capacity to answer intelligently on any subject.

I reckon he is set in his mind ( assuming he has one) that he is the ultimate power in this encounter and will never be open to different views.

Such a cowardly stance also points to other characteristics which may be decidedly dangerous when he is cornered.

His blood was substituted by venom a long time ago and as with all bullies, there is need to pick your fight and venue where you can even out the odds and stand a chance to win.

This minister doesn’t have enough words in his vocabulary to hold a real debate and I’m concerned as to how he will likely respond to further calls to his brain to think up what he is incapable of thinking.

It’s time to adopt tactic rather than a full frontal engagement.

Find a befitting and parting salvo to relegate him to being unworthy of your time.

Time will do its job, and a moment in the future will make this right.

I do not advocate silence in the face of unfairness but I recommend you find a worthy protagonist that helps you solve Gwede because he can’t solve himself while intoxicated with this power.

Just my thoughts
[9/15, 2:22 PM] mdmawere1: Thanks. I would have thought that Gwede is the best protagonist for a change to take place.

His toxicity is general and the issues deserve a person like him.

The situation was self-created and he makes the point that I acted maliciously by recording the second call he made.

How many people exist who miscontrue privacy and confidentiality with the right of parties to any chat to preserve such content including minimizing uncessary factual disputes.

There can be dispute that Gwede like many nameless actors believe that this woman called SA is too pretty and the consequential interest in it should be controlled and managed.

He believes that he has a duty to protect the woman and any foreigner, a definition that includes all persons who have no natural and native relationship with SA should fall outside the ambit of his oath of office.

By de-escalating a useful and beneficial conversation, the frontiers of ignorance are reduced by those who like Gwede believe in the genius of asserting and exposing their illiteracy on the identity questions.

The eloquence of silence on what matters fuels tryranny and intolerance.

Gwede has no power to silence anyone and I have not communicated with him since the audio and his propensity to use my name with third parties confirms that he was touched by the unplanned reaction.

He would want the experience to fly off like a fly.

He has the capacity to answer intelligently on any subject hence his inclusion in the cabinet and rose to be Chairman of the ruling party.

Prior to this he was the Secretary General of ANC.

His mind is for him to understand but suffice to say that no one has any intention to change his mind.

It would be futile anyway to seek to change another’s mind.

What is important is test his ideas and some of his comments do provoke thought?

He on the contrary is not a coward but a person who believes and holds to his convictions that he has a duty of care to ensure that the foreign factor is limited in shaping and defining the character and personality of the identity of employed SA citizens.

His blood flows like yours and mine.

We may call him a bully but his views remain his and it is always beneficial to unpack such views as they have been expressed.

The propensity to regard any divergent view as agency-motivated is not limited to Gwede because he genuinely believes that humanity is divisible into leaders and followers.

He could believe that he was born to be on the leadership side of the divide and his opinion is a better one.

In this case his approach seems to enjoy support of Ramaphhisa’s cabinet that foreigners must be squeezed out by any means necessary.

The Minister was just reminding me that my issues should remain hidden in between my two big ears and should never find expression in the public domain let alone in his presence.

This is not my personal issue and I am grateful that God used me as a vessel to be on the opposite side of Gwede.

I never imagined that an opportunity would arise for me to be a bridge to a new conversation regarding the fate of documented persons including citizens who are by default an integral part of the targeted class of undesirables.

This is healthy to dramatize the point that no one is safe when identity can easily be weaponized and manipulated to be agenda setting.

I have no mechanism of choosing or knowing in anticipation who God will use to raise awareness on an issues that only emerge randomly.

Time waits for no one. I am grateful that persons like Chivasa who is based in the UK and Mupasiri in Zimbabwe have given legs to the audio and have taken next steps to expose the dangers of a public office bearers like Gwede not being held to account for their utternaces that have a bearing on public policies.

It is always the case to see an opportunity opened by Gwede to confront a bigger issue as a personal matter but by you and others choosing to be issue-based, I have no doubt that it can and will always be a lesson for all and not the object of attack and ridicule