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The truth behind Gwede Mantashe’s audio utterances

Caroline Du Plessis

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Yesterday, a tweet was posed as set out below in relation to the facts and circumstances of the audio and its timing.
It will be noted that a certain person using the name Pompe Magafuli, the late President of Tanzania, alleged that the person Gwede Mantashe was talking to was a senior ZANU-PF leader when no facts exist supporting this allegation.

It is also falsely asserted that the alleged senior ZANU-PF person was the one who institigated the conversation when in truth and fact, it was Gwede who initiated the call.

This is confirmed by the following thread:

“[0:19 pm, 21/08/2022] mdmawere1: Good afternoon
[0:24 pm, 21/08/2022] mdmawere1: Thanks for the phone call. I am sorry to have disturbed you by sharing what I believe is in the public and national interest.

I am disturbed that you would conclude that the targeting of foreigners is justified based on what you believe is the unfair burden on SA based on skewed immigration flows.

Your sentiments that speaks of citizenship apartheid are chilling and shocking.

It is disturbing that you as the Chairman of the ruling party would hold strong views that fall outside the prescription of law including the fact that the Zimbabwean government has jurisdiction to invade the jurisdictional space of a sovereign state like SA to attack the rights of its purported former citizens in SA especially after telling you that I am a citizen of SA.

The idea that citizenship can be divisible is novelty that I am battling to understand and comprehend.”

It was only after Gwede gad received the above message that he called again and the shared audio relates to the second call.

In the second audio, Gwede sought to ridule the intentional and deliberate invasion of SA’s territorial integrity by Mnangagwa’s agents, Messrs. Edwin Manikai, his personal attorney, Afaras Gwaradzimba, in his capacity as Administration in relation to companies whose control and management was hijacked via a decree, and ENS Inc, the SA bridge to the SA courts that sought and obtained various judgments that resulted in the liquidation of about 14 entities based on the recognition and enforcement of a decree that offends international law and SA constitution.

It was Gwede’s bold assertion that he has no duty of care to South African entities whose rights and freedoms were divested and deprived based on the application of a Zimbabwean decree on account of the fact that his duties were limited to the protection of authentic SA citizens as he did not believe that citizenship acquired through naturalization qualified to be of equal ranking with the citizenship by birth.

This paper has established that Mr. Mawere acquired SA citizenship in 2002 and yet Gwede publicly asserted that such a right was of no force and effect.

Mr. Mantashe holds a public office and took an oath to serve all persons as prescribed in the constitution of SA.

Notwithstanding the limitations imposed upon all citizens to obey, defend, respect and uphold the rule of law and the supremacy of the constitution, Mr. Mantashe would appear to be oblivious of his duty of care to all citizens and to the provisions of s1 of the Constitution.

The constitution make no provision of a segregated citizenship implied by Mr. Mantashe in the audio.

The following threads whose contents are self-explanatory were shared between Mr. Mantashe and Mr. Mawere:

“[0:30 pm, 21/08/2022] mdmawere1: [8/21, 12:19 PM] Nosiviwe Mapisa: No my brother it’s about how you did it. You should have given me the context of the conversation at least so that I’m able to follow. Now at least I have a bit of an understanding 🙏🏾🕯️❤️
[8/21, 12:27 PM] mdmawere1: I am sorry for not giving you any context.

I apologize for this but emotions do overcome rationality.

I have just spoken to Hon Gwede Mantashe and what he said is not only chilling but exposes a deeper complexity that there exists no shared understanding on Identity and the politics in it.

I am shaking right now with anger.
[2:37 pm, 21/08/2022] mdmawere1: [8/21, 2:13 PM] Prof Mupasiri: This is very emotional yet truthful.

Shared understanding on what a rainbow nation is is not present even in those who occupy public offices in South Africa.

The lack of shared understanding sires a bad heritage.
[8/21, 2:14 PM] mdmawere1: Do you think there is interest in tackling the key public policy issues that need to be addressed in order to reduce the frontiers of unemployment?
[8/21, 2:19 PM] Prof Mupasiri: I have listened to the audio and the depicted character of the late Mr Moussa is that of a person who believed in the future of Africa, someone who banked on it and wanted life to be enjoyable by many.

I saw his character as that of a unifier on both business and family level where he would be duped of the stones but still exhibit patience with his fellow kinsmen.

It is a sad loss and Africans must step up and call for accountability on the government with regards to these vigilante acts.

We should not bystand when this is happening because tomorrow the same predicament will visit us and noone will speak out for us.
[8/21, 2:20 PM] Prof Mupasiri: No interest from the government.
[8/21, 2:22 PM] mdmawere1: Do you think the Speaker and Gwede would be interested in the SA version for the quest of just and accountability?
[8/21, 2:23 PM] Prof Mupasiri: No, they won’t be
[8/21, 2:23 PM] Prof Mupasiri: The attitude is anti accountability
[8/21, 2:23 PM] mdmawere1: Why are so quick to conclude?!
[8/21, 2:25 PM] Prof Mupasiri: Maybe it’s because there is no shared understanding
[8/21, 2:36 PM] mdmawere1: Do you have any evidence to support they have no interest?

The Speaker has stated that the problem was me who without notice shared threads that had no relevance to him.

It is my recklessness that provoked her response.

It was not the message that she objected to but the form it was conveyed and given her time limitations, she would have preferred like many to be told by the author what was expected from her.

You must recognize that public office bearers are wary of being scandalized and as such put the government into disrepute.

She indicated that she now understands the content and context.

Notwithstanding, did you take notice of the reality that she did not indicate if the subject matter was of interest especially after learning from the thread that SA jurisdiction was used to sanitize the theft of private property in Zimbabwe and SA using the agency of prestigious law firms like DLA PIPER and ENS AFRICA.

Do you think if the prosecutors of the unlawful recognition of a foreign decree had been perpetrated by a black law firm, the silence and disinterest would have been alive.

I am sure you are aware that at the CORE OF THE PHALA PHALA matter is the quest to hold public office bearers to account for the use or abuse of public power in the conduct of their duties.

Without judging, do you see that the head of one of the three pillars of the SA governance system may not see the challenge that compelled you to launch applications in the Courts of South Africa invites some kind of trivialization of attacks on black property rights yet whites are being attacked by actors using EFF for some grand theft that invites the disregard of the rule of law?
[3:33 pm, 21/08/2022] mdmawere1: [8/21, 2:44 PM] Prof Mupasiri: It is frightening that Mantashe is that arrogant.

It is inconsistent with the role of a public officer in any constitutional state.

Anger is normal and it is an abuse of someone’s emotional being to suppress anger and speaking out.

Who would know the problem if the culture of speaking out is not celebrated.

It is the truth through speaking out that breeds accountability, transparency and dignity in a nation and those who live in it.
[8/21, 3:32 PM] mdmawere1: Thanks for your insightful and instructive observations about the content and context of an influential Chairman of ANC.

I shared my chats to provoke, ignite and inspire new thinking on what is required to build a progressive, inclusive and cohesive Africa.

This achieved the intended purpose.

Gwede called not to deal with the contents but to contemptuously ridicule and reprimand me for daring to invade his WhatsApp privacy.

He was brutal in his attack.

He treated me as a confused infant and anything I said, he was quick to trash and in short he said, I have no title to expect any hearing in SA and I should go to Zimbabwe.

I reminded of a meeting I had with hm at the Michaelangelo Hotel in Sandton that was arranged by his Zimbabwean son-in-law in 2012 when I was suspended as the Rivonia Heroes Ward 106 ANC branch Chairman.

At the meeting, he expressed surprise that I was a Chairman of an ANC branch because according to him, foreigners were not eligible to be members of the ANC let alone to be an office bearer.

He became angry when I asked him to any authority in the ANC constitution that provided for the asserted prohibitions.

He then went on to state that foreigners were not entitled to any rights and even made a joke that it would be unfathomable for a party like ZANU-PF the entertain foreign elements in its ranks.

When I named people like the late Victoria Chitepo, who married Adv Hebert Chitepo and became a Minister although she was born in South Africa, his anger escalated.

At the time, he held the position of SG.

Today he repeated the same sentiments confirming that his position on Identity Politics have not changed.

To call him arrogant would be tantamount to diverting attention from the core of his message.

He believes that he is high and mighty and SA laws are importent as citizenship granted to a foreigner is fatally defective.

Arrogance normally is founded on ignorance of self but when the person is a public office bearer holds views that are founded on a mistaken belief that a nation of laws must arm its office bearers with powers that fail to speak to the prescripts of the laws of general application, then one must know that no one is safe.

I still trying to recover from his utterances whose effect is that my citizenship does not matter yet I voted for legitimate office bearers, albeit, by voting for the party that we are all equal members.

The doctrine of equality is a fundamental tenet of the rule of law yet the proposition by Gwede if not successfully challenged will create a new paradigm allowing for the selective application of the law.

He shockingly expressed no interest to establish the veracity of the allegation that contrary to international law, a precedent exists that a foreign decree can be recognized, tolerated and enforced in South Africa resulting in a foreign government benefiting from judgments tainted by fraud.

Your applications before SA courts confirm that the limitations imposed by the constitution on the enforcement of stolen rights by foreign rogue regimes are not relevant in relation to the due and prpper administration of justice.

Like during the apartheid era, any black person who sought to challenge the status quo was treated as an angry of not aggressive person.

It is not unmistakable that Gwede sought to undermine me by treating me as a child who is angry because the mother has not produced required milk.

He tone and demeanor is telling.

I had no expected him to display such contempt.

Against, this backgrop, do you think that in your matters, justice and accountability of a broken system would be the order of the day?

I have my serious misgivings.
[3:45 pm, 21/08/2022] Gwede Mantashe: You see now I will not engage with. Because you engage with the purpose of posting in the social media
[4:00 pm, 21/08/2022] mdmawere1: Where did I post on social media? Why make assumptions?”

The SABC chose to spin the story to project the content of the audio as if it was ZIM v SA and the actors in it as if Mr. Mawere was some senior ZANU-PF official.

Mr. Mupasiri who communicated with Gwede was angered to observe that this audio was being manipulated to suit certain agendas, wrote to Mr. Peter Ndoro, who has so far failed, refused and neglected to correct the erroneous version peddled by Ms. Sophie Mokoena on SABC:

Letter to peter ndoro that was copied to mr. mantashe

Set out below was Gwede’s response:

[25/08, 11:04] Prof. Mupasiri Zimbabwe: I am copying you this letter that I sent to Mr. Peter Ndoro of SABC.
[25/08, 17:51] Gwede Mantashe: please remove me from your mailing list. I dont want to be involved in your mischief.

Set out below is a tweet of today that provides a correct context of the audio:

The audio between Mr. Mawere and Mr. Mantashe is as posted below:

Stream Mutumwa Mawere former ANC Branch Chairman in Conversation with ANC Chairman Gwede Mantashe by The 1873 FM | Listen online for free on SoundCloud

In the interests of nation building and fostering social cohesion, it is important that issues are debated openly and transparently.

The views of Mr. Mantashe are not held by him alone. The audio preceded the Dr. Phopi Ramatuba video to allow anyone to be confused.

The significance of Mr. Mantashe’s statement is that according to him even legitimate holders of SA citizenship and permits deserve no protection of the law and the equal benefit from the protection of the law.

Under this construction, the inescapable conclusion is that no one is safe if a bona fide citizen like Mawere is not afforded any dignity and is openly treated as an infact. More to follow:

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